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Ralph Nader Writes An Open Letter To Senator Bernie Sanders

Ralph NaderRalph Nader

Dear Senator Sanders:

I hear that you will be debating Senator Ted Cruz next Tuesday on CNN in prime time where you will seek to defend Obamacare against Republican assault.

You have said in the past that “I don’t believe in Obamacare” and that Obamacare is “a good Republican program.” So, I’m not sure why you continue to defend it.

As you know, under Obamacare, tens of millions remain uninsured or underinsured.

Deductibles are expanding and networks are narrowing – not to mention numbing complexities, higher co-pays and higher premiums.

In 2013, you introduced a single payer bill in the Senate (S. 1782) – with no co-sponsors.

Throughout the 2016 campaign, you powerfully made the case all over the country before massive audiences for a more efficient single payer Medicare for All – without deductibles, co-pays, premiums – plus free choice of doctor and hospital.

But you have reportedly decided not to introduce or push for single payer in the Congress this year.

Your health policy adviser has privately told some single payer activists you will not introduce a single payer bill into the Senate this year because the Democratic leadership believes that such a bill will get in the way of electing a Democratic Senate in 2018.

Even without the Democratic Party or the labor unions making a major public educational push, a December 2015 national Kaiser public opinion poll found that 58 percent of adults in the US supported single payer –  including 81 percent of Democrats, 60 percent of Independents, and 30 percent of Republicans.

I urge you to drop your defensive stance and introduce the equivalent of HR 676 – the gold standard single payer bill in the House of Representatives (with 56 co-sponsors so far) – into the Senate this week and come out swinging for the bill next week.

How many of your millions of supporters would not want you to do this?

Onward to Single Payer Medicare for All.

Sincerely,

Ralph Nader


About the Author

Ralph Nader
Ralph Nader
Ralph Nader is a politician, activist and the author of Only the Super-Rich Can Save Us!, a novel.

82 Comments on "Ralph Nader Writes An Open Letter To Senator Bernie Sanders"

  1. Ralph, you sanctimonious, grandiose, narcissistic asshole. I know you didn’t help George W. get elected. Bullshit. Now you’re going to lecture Bernie?
    I can’t help thinking about the horrors inflicted on Iraqi children every time I hear your fucking name. But you stood up for your principles. No compromises for you no matter what the consequences.

    • Joe with your response…you showed you are the narcissistic asshole. Also braindead and morally bankrupt. The best thing for you to do is pull your foot out of your mouth and your head out of your ass…

      • It will be harder to paint Bernie as a wild eyed left wing extremist after everybody’s read Ralph’s open letter.

        I’m okay with that.

      • I agree with you Joe Nunez. I was able to get insurance for the first time in 15 years and the payment for me is $54. Bernie would be was wasting his time trying to get this administration to pass single payer.
        He would be wise to save it for his presidential run.
        Nader is full of himself you hit the nail on the head and are exactly right.

    • Totally agree. If this sanctimonious a-hole had stayed out of the election there’d be NO President Bush. No Iraq war, no refugees, no Islamification of Germany and Europe; -pushing it towards fascism. No freak out here in the US about immigration, and NO xxxxxxTRUMP.

      • The Democrats voted for the Iraq War authorization, including Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Harry Reid, John Edwards, and Chuck Schumer. They could have stopped it. They chose not to. If you knew your history you would know that Nader had nothing to do with it.

      • We’ve had a democratic president for the past 8 years and we are now bombing 8 different countries. Executive power of drone strikes to anyone and anyone regardless of the innocent people in their path. And yet we only want to talk about the atrocities of Iraq? In which we would’ve been in even if Gore was elected thanks to the support of the Dems?

      • Great points, adding one point “False 911 Flag”

    • Almost twenty years later and people still believe this? A friendly reminder for those who forget their history: over 300,000 Democrats voted for Bush in that election, exit polls indicated that half of Nader’s voters would have stayed home if he wasn’t on the ballot, and Al Gore wouldn’t pursue the recount. Not only that but the Democrats too voted for the Iraq War even despite all the protests against it.

      • FALSE. A friendly reminder for those who forget their history: Gore won the popular vote, even before SCOTUS ordered that they stop counting. It came down to Florida. Remember hanging chads, butterfly ballots? Remember that even Pat Buchanan came out saying he could not have won Dade County? member that Bush’s campaign chair was the election official in Florida? member Scalia’s son worked for the Law firm that represented Bush before Scotus? member that Clarence Thomas’s wife worked for Bush administration? member that Bush was not elected, but rather appointed by SCOTUS? member that Gore did not pursue the recount because it was halted by SCOTUS??? Nadar was a convenient scapegoat, but the election was a banana republic coup. It’s not the first time we’re had a stolen election. member?

    • Joseph. If that is what you see then you must be looking in a mirror

    • Cynthia Papermaster | February 6, 2017 at 10:12 am | Reply

      Joseph, you are incorrect that Ralph Nader helped Bush get elected. You know very well that the Supreme Court handed Bush and Cheney the election. And it was them, and both the Democrats and Republicans in Congress, who are responsible for inflicting horrors, and continuing to inflict horrors on the Iraqis, and well as those in at least 6 other countries. Ralph Nader is beloved national hero. Your anger is mis-directed. We need a single-payer health system and the majority of Americans want it. Do you?

      • I beliwve the point was the election would mot have had to go to the Supreme Court at all if Gore had received those Nader votes.

        • David Rossdale | February 7, 2017 at 10:41 pm | Reply

          Are you mistakenly assuming that all people who voted Nader would have instead voted for Bush? Why would you say that when all available polling indicated that was not true?

          It wouldn’t have gone to the Supreme Court if Gore had received all those Bush votes, but that wasn’t going to happen either.

    • Dave Beauchemin | February 6, 2017 at 12:39 pm | Reply

      Brilliantly stated, couldn’t agree more!
      Nader should be synonymous with “nuisance”!

    • Get over it for goodness sakes. It’s the future we must protect not the past. If you want to live in the past fine but us evolved humans who care what happens to our children in the future agree with what Mr. Nader has said. There can be no give and take when it comes to our healthcare.

    • Typical Neo-Liberal Hillary supporter.
      Now making believe he supports Bernie.

    • Ralph didn’t get Bush elected. We don’t live in a Democracy – that’s why Bush won.

    • it wasn’t nadar that gave us bush, it was diebold and clintons……get real dude! Get your facts straight, you loose credibility with bull shit. DIEBOLD! Look it up

  2. Billy Ethridge | February 5, 2017 at 12:07 pm | Reply

    Totally agree. Simplify and extend healthcare for everyone in this country.

  3. Keith Standley | February 5, 2017 at 12:26 pm | Reply

    Thank you, Mr. Nader. I continue to believe our culture will evolve someday.

  4. Leanne L. Williams | February 5, 2017 at 5:44 pm | Reply

    I completely agree. I went uninsured, even after Obamacare started, because I could not afford the premiums. A year ago I became, through a divorce and a lost job, eligible for Medicaid, and enjoyed one year of relative ease health-wise, but now I’m facing 65 and Medicare and will need to go back to premiums and supplemental insurance that I can’t afford. And I’m only one person! How many more like me exist who are being broken by commercial health insurance companies? Commercial profiteering has to be taken out of the health care industry so that everyone can get care that they need when they need it, and not have to settle for substandard care because some pencil-pusher won’t allow a treatment that’s needed or could be paid for by someone like Trump! I’m as worthy of health care as he and his billion-dollar cronies are!

  5. Thank you for your fundamentally correct advice on this issue. The only way to correct the system is the single payer – medical for all with absolute right to negotiate all costs for prescription as well services Plus extension of programs to include holistic , oriental and herbal medicine.

  6. I think many of his supporters would be glad to see a bill for single payer healthcare, but in the meantime why shouldn’t he defend insuring millions of people under the already passed ACA? If we can’t get more democrats elected, what’s the point of pushing for single payer? It will never happen with our current congress. The President would never sign it so it would have to not only pass, but also pass with a veto-proof majority. Neither will happen with the current congress. The thing about Sanders supporters is that we think he’s the best person to push the agenda we want enacted, we don’t think he’s perfect and we certainly have the ability to disagree with things he does or supports. However, in this case, his instincts are right to protect the progress already made against being rolled back.

    • Yes, you’re absolutely right. He is defending and protecting the already approved ACA,until a better plan comes along. Thank you Bernie!

  7. Linda Guttilla | February 5, 2017 at 6:14 pm | Reply

    Be true to yourself Senator Sanders. I hold out my trust to you.

  8. Carlos Pineiro | February 5, 2017 at 6:26 pm | Reply

    Wow. If this is true, then we will see which direction the Democrats continue to take health care. “Health care is a right” doesn’t mean financially crippling premiums and deductibles to the private insurance industry without a public option.

  9. We need you Mr Nader

  10. Patricia Weidl | February 5, 2017 at 6:42 pm | Reply

    I have to say I agree with this article. Sen. Sanders should state what he believes. He really does not owe the democratic party any loyalty at this point.

  11. Please Bernie fight for us ! You seem to be our only hope

  12. ?You are a truly wonderful human neing, Mr. Ralph Nader.?

  13. Karlicia berry | February 5, 2017 at 6:54 pm | Reply

    I am a Bernie supporter and an Our Revolution supporter. I agree with Mr. Nader. We need a one payer health insurance program. The timing could not be better. Put aside partisan politics and push for what’s best for the American people, a one payer healthcare system. The Affordable Care Act is like the Titanic and insurance profits the glacier. As long as insurance companies run health insurance for profit…it will be profits over people and ACA built as it is will run aground. As for Trump, he desperately needs a home run right now and this could be it,morphing ACA into a single payer healthcare system.

  14. He makes a good point. What do think Bernie? You know the political calculus better than all of us.

  15. Well that would be a great idea, but it would not pass, and if we give up on the ACA more than 20 million people will lose their healthcare. Sanders still wants and is still working on single payer, but in the mean time, we have to hold on to the little we have. So the answer is to do both which is what he is trying to do a lot more successfully than you have been Mr. Nader.

  16. Nader / Stein 2020

  17. Got a good point, Ralph. Sanders is being so squeezed by the retro Dems, he needs you and us to give him the support to stand with his own ideas.

  18. Leta Bez-Wogen | February 5, 2017 at 7:07 pm | Reply

    We require the ACA until we achieve single payer healthcare and Bernie is right to fight for it.

  19. Natalie Bowman | February 5, 2017 at 7:10 pm | Reply

    I am a Bernie Supporter who voted for Jill Stein in California and I agree with Ralph Nader. I want Bernie Sanders to drop this defensive stance and introduce a single payer healthcare bill this year.

    • Anthony Mercado | February 6, 2017 at 1:03 am | Reply

      I agree with u Ms. Bowman ??

      • I so agree with you. I sent Bernie money to represent me and other middle class people. It was his duty when he knew the Democrats were committing fraud in the election to stop collecting our money. Now he needs to make amends for that for pushing for Medicare for all. Bernie, show us that you are no longer that Democrat that supports the Dem Party which is corrupt to it’s core and cannot be redeemed. Work for us!

  20. Thank you for your continuing fight against the corporate takeover of our government.
    I was fortunate to have met you at the Summit in DC during Inauguration. You spoke if 2 things that day that I would like a clarification on.
    1. You stated that during the summer break we should “summon” our elected officials to town hall meetings. This is an excellent idea that worked very well for the Tea Party. Could you give more details on how that process works?
    2. You encouraged us to “Occupy Congress.”
    Was that in recommendation to takeover in a political sense or an Occupy Wall Street sense, or both?
    Thank you for your thoughts.
    Onward,
    Danni Long

  21. Salvatore j cucinotta | February 5, 2017 at 7:47 pm | Reply

    Correct

  22. During this debate with Bernie Sanders and Ted Cruz, I hope Bernie Sanders doesn’t defend the democrats. I was a voting democrat for 46 years but no longer. I voted for Bernie Sanders during the primaries and Jill Stein during the election. I believe the reason we have Trump as our president is because the poor and middle class feel the democrats have turned against them in favor of profit. ‘We, the people’ need support and want our rights (constitution) protected. We need glass steagull, something to protect us and our environment from corporations and banks who only care about their ‘bottom line’. The ACA can’t compare to medicare for all.

    • I so agree with your Tereasa. I was a Bernie supporter and then voted for Jill. The Dems cheated Bernie out of being President. I will never vote for them again. Bernie needs to work just for the people. Forget the Dems. They are all corporatists. Greedy, crooks.

  23. I think with Trump and his administration wanting ton end The Affordable Care Act is the right time to put forward a single payer plan as the
    alternative. I hope that Bernie propose
    such a bill and we organize for it

  24. Yes , yes , yes , Burnie do it for America and the people of America …

  25. Go Ralph and Bernie. Single payer is the way to go!

  26. Well said. Thank you for your open letter to Senator Sanders. I’m a Berner through and through but even Bernie needs to be held accountable for what he stands for when he drifts away no matter the reason he drifts. I did not get behind him to unite the Party and vote for HRC and I won’t get behind him if he chooses to not fight for Single Payer Medicare. The revolution isn’t about one person – it’s about the people and our voice as one.

  27. Richard anderson | February 5, 2017 at 10:35 pm | Reply

    I think it’s important for the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party to get out in front and advocate for the practical solutions that address our issue. I hope Bernie will do that. His recent behavior seems to be one of legitimizing the Liberal death grip on the Party.

  28. I urge you, Bernie Sanders who I donated thousands of my hard earned money to in the 2016 litigators, to drop your defensive stance and introduce the equivalent of HR 676

  29. Patrick Cronin | February 5, 2017 at 11:56 pm | Reply

    I concur, there must be loads of Republican voters enrolled in ACA- no? I would urge the Senator to spend less time on partisan politics and see what can be done about putting the Democratic party on at least a more democratic footing if not, more progressive, because no self respecting Demexiter is going to look sideways at the party if the Superdeplorable Superdelegates are still in place. Get real … this is not about letting the neo cons and neo liberals embrace each other and find their sweet spot, they’re toast. grrr

  30. Betty Campbell | February 6, 2017 at 12:12 am | Reply

    I believe that Bernie knows what he’s doing. I don’t have that belief about Ralph Nader. I trust Bernie.

  31. Bernie you have to so the right thing. Endorsing hillary was the wrong thing. Not going after primary election fraud and voter electon fraud was the wrong thing. Endorsing ellison is the wrong thing. I dont know who got inside of you but we need bernie back.

  32. Nader is full of sour grapes! Of course Bernie is in favor of a single payer system and does not need encouragement to implement it! It will happen when it is feasible but with Republicans in control of congress it may have to wait a bit. Right now we have to focus on not losing the few benefits we have! I trust Bernie to do what is in the realm of possibility to do that!

    • Nader is right to encourage Bernie to introduce it now. It is more affordable than the ACA. The insurance companies are the ones who are opposed to it. Then he could remind Trump that he was suppose to be listening to the middle class voters in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Minnesota who put him over.
      .

    • Nader is right. The Republicans voted to overturn the ACA 40 plus times. The Dems should introduce one payer Medicare for All at least that many times. Most of the country are for it. Guess who is against: Insurance companies.
      .

  33. Haleh Niazmand | February 6, 2017 at 5:38 am | Reply

    Most dogmatic followers of the Democrats resemble the Republicans, and I am sick of all those who blame everyone else for the fact that their elected officials are gutless corporate frauds and Bernie merely a timid idealist without vision. I am not holding my breath that Bernie would hear anyone outside the corrupt Democratic Party he has committed himself to. Their President Obama and the corrupt party politics are why the American people are suffering the presidency of Trump, and all their senators do is confirm Trump’s nominations without a fight one after another. Dear Ralph, please don’t waste your time on Bernie. He will never respond to your letters as did not answer the people who supported him after the primary. I applaud your years of service to consumers of this country and appreciate your brilliant mind, dedicated character and all you have done for the progressive discourse of this nation. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

  34. sanders has three things in common with all the other people who the establishment sent to take hillary down. He wants to take away our emails in the name of his witch hunt. he wants to take away our transcripts in the name of hiswitch hunt . and he wants to presume people guilty who have been investigated never proven to have done anything wrong.Thats what the establishment has always wanted, its what trump stein sanders and johnson all wanted to do, its what te fbi has always wanted and they are the establishment. clinton was the only anti establishment candidate, the only one who stood for personal civil rights. But there is good news. trump is going to treat all the sanders supporters exactly the way that sanders wanted to treat hillary. This will provide many opportunities for learning fun time.

  35. Margaret Goodwin | February 6, 2017 at 6:47 am | Reply

    Please! OBVIOUSLY the problem is the insurance companies. If people only paid a premiun through a small tax, like Medicare, we could all be covered. Tax the oil companies to pay for it; after all, they cause all the disease.

  36. It’s not going to happen in the current climate. You all forget why the ACA isn’t the single payer system that it could have been. A single payer system will greatly cut into the Insurance Industries profits. There will still be people who want Cadillac plans, but the overwhelming majority of people will not. Besides the obvious loss of revenue to a huge lobby group, the Insurance Industry as it stands today, employs a LOT of people, who would quickly lose their jobs if the Industry profits sink. SO its not about Healthcare. Its about profits and keeping people employed. The members of Congress make tons of money off of the Insurance Industry also. Someday it could happen. It SHOULD happen. But not with this Congress and THIS President.

  37. No one writes why medical costs so much.Why you have no price competition.When i buy a shirt i see different price advertised why Dr and Hospitals are given liberty to charge without quoting price in advance.When third party pays dr and hospital and patient is forced to pay a monthly bill when he uses or not the services is the biggest crime on human system .
    Health insurance should like Life insurance ,based on age and health condition .When you change a heart valve of a 70 yrs old poor man he or community is not benefited but only drs and hospital ceos.

  38. Timidity and compromise has lost voters because we don’t appear to fight hard for our beliefs as well as being open to suspicions of corruption. What more do we need to loose, we lost it all already. Fight like you mean it, people will both rally behind the cause seeing the platforms they REALLY want and not being sell outs.

  39. Criage Lynnette Althage | February 6, 2017 at 1:26 pm | Reply

    Wow I think I saw some Democrat anti immigrant xenophobist remarks. A Democrat Trumpist anti Trump is truly a strange and horrific creature all its own. Also so wrong mathematically and ethiclly regarding Nader in the 2000 election. People voted for Ralph because he had good positive liberatory ideas and these people would not had ever voted for the neoliberal lackluster Reaganlite Democrats. So pull your heads out of whatever comfort of ignorance and work instead to end Trump’s Hate and Fear pogrom.

  40. Bernie…Don’t be like the rest of the receivers in Washington. Stand up for the people. We’re there not any lessons learned by caving and backing Hillary?

  41. Yes single payer Now!! Put Trumps feet to fire!!!

  42. Forrest Blocker | February 6, 2017 at 2:47 pm | Reply

    I agree. The chess game hasn’t been working out for Democrats. It is time for a direct approach from representatives fueled by public pressure. Representatives in congress and the senate have the ability to appeal directly to the people for support. Sanders has shown us how powerful this can be. There are certainly many battles to fight, but the idea of backburnering some because the votes aren’t in congress is a losing strategy. Rather, talk to the people, push the bill, and see how the people respond in the midterms.

  43. John Beardsley | February 6, 2017 at 4:38 pm | Reply

    Of course the ACA needs and deserves to be defended against the extreme right. Mr Nader sees the goal. He has always had a clear of the best solution, if this were a better world. but he never seems to see that defending a partial solution is a better path toward his long term goal than letting the worst take over. Letting the GOP destroy the ACA and replace it nothing, or something worse than nothing will not make it easier to eventually reach a fully rational solution Of course destroying the ACA will also cause a huge number of Americans to live sicker and die younger, and cost hundreds of billions extra, over the next few years

  44. Mr. Nader, Compromise and sufficient numbers of votes are essential for getting bills passed. I know you know this. Recently Bernie presented a Bill for consideration regarding pharmaceuticals and the ability for Americans to buy them from Canada at significantly reduced prices. I betting you know what happened with that. So, my point here is that Bernie is smart enough to realize that he will never get the whole enchilada in this new administration and congress so he is taking the path that will best lead to that whole enchilada. What are you doing?

  45. John Beardsley | February 6, 2017 at 4:51 pm | Reply

    Several people here mentioned that they voted for Jill Stein in the General. Two points 1. In a General election, where it is 100% certain that one of two candidates, if one candidate is, even a little better, in your opinion, than the other, then a vote for a third candidate is effectively a vote for the worse candidate.
    2. Jill Stein is an anti vaccine conspiracy kook. Any conspiracy theorist should never get a vote for POTUS by ant rational person, and the anti vaccine CT is about the most dangerous of them all

  46. Hubert Gesenhues | February 6, 2017 at 7:45 pm | Reply

    Americans desiring a transition to an improved health care system similar to single payer would be WISE to support Donald Trump on some of his original proposals to reform health insurance.

    The #1 most important reform Trump proposed is moving the income tax deduction for health insurance purchases out of employer hands and onto to everyone’s tax return so ALL Americans can claim that deduction.

    The #2 important Trump reform is selling a STANDARD, COMPREHENSIVE health insurance policy across state lines so that everyone has NATIONAL coverage and NATIONAL provider networks.

    Our current for-profit system is fragmented and corrupted by employer based tax deduction distortions which create thousands upon thousands of SEGREGATED RISK POOLS. As more and more Americans purchase their own private health insurance, standardizing the income tax treatment of health insurance payments would help to merge those risk pools into ONE RISK POOL. A single risk pool is one feature of SINGLE PAYER. A single comprehensive national health policy with national health network is another feature of SINGLE PAYER. Under our employer purchased health insurance model, most people who do not purchase their own private health insurance policies do not understand the risk pool structure of American health insurance market and how that market is gleefully cherry-picked to Wall Street’s obscene profit. This dooms America’s health future to continued dominance under rapacious private health insurers who refuse to pool risk, which is the purpose of insurance..

    Americans should hold Donald Trump to his original health insurance proposals and help him to mold these private market friendly reforms into something that works for ALL Americans, and screw the rest of the bought and paid for Establishment / Wall Street owned politicians.

  47. My God thank you Ralph Nader. I voted for Bernie Sanders and I voted for Jill Stein. I still love Bernie Sanders but I have noticed that and a couple other things that bother me that I know came from the higher-ups in the Democratic establishment from Bernie Sanders. I wish to God there was a way you could get out from under their control. I don’t know what they have on you Bernie but I wish to God it would stop. Bernie Sanders please leave that corrupt party who keeps literally saying the words that they don’t want to change like Nancy Pelosi did recently. But that’s just one of booty slap to the face to progressives and to you Bernie Sanders. Please join the Green party and lead us all to the political revolution you promised us That’s my letter to Bernie thank you again rough later you’re a true American hero for trying throughout the years. If we blindly follow everything Bernie does no matter what it is that we’re no better than Trump supporters and Hillary supporters Just another sheep

  48. Thank you Ralph Nader! Please keep speaking to progressive values, tactics, and strategies. We are dealing with fascists in Congress and the White House. I believe the best way to combat these fascists is to oust them from every possible corner of political office…and that means at every single level.

  49. Thank you, Ralph Nader, for reminding people of what is the case, whether seeking public office or not. There is a case to be made for pragmaticism in politics. Of course, it will always be necessary to consider the views of others who will be voting on a remedy to a problem. And if the compromise is with the representatives of the insurance companies and of the pharmaceutical corporations. And there may be nothing wrong with that if it works. But the present system that does just that, does not work. The single payer is one of controls that do work. Is Sanders serious about universal health care? The Green Party is!

  50. I’m still upset at your ignorance of the Corvair. Under inflated tires caused the problems but Chevy was already phasing it out .So much for the judgement of Ralph Nader.

  51. Such a plethora of comments and half of them are still peeved at Nader and Bernie. Look, our current “government” leans towards fascism. We’ve got Bannon, a white supremacist who looks like he escaped from a ten-year-long frat party, and we’ve got Trump, who is mentally ill and completely lacking in morals and character. The reality is that a single payer health care plan is NOT likely to make it anywhere: it has the proverbial snowflake in hell chance.

    However, the ACA is saving lives. Yes, it’s flawed, but it can and should live on as Obamacare (Why do you think Trump and his minions so want to get rid of it? They’ll never get to call it Trumpcare!). Let’s support Bernie and let’s be realistic (hard, I know) about the times in which we live. Of course, fight for our country and fight for health care for all, but I think it’s pretty easy for Nader to say practically nothing up until now and then speak up.

  52. I agree with you Ralph and sometimes I wonder about Bernie Sanders. If they want these Republicans let them have them.

  53. Lauren Preller | February 7, 2017 at 5:09 am | Reply

    The 2 Party system is destroying our country. They have pressured Bernie somehow. I will never vote Democratic again. You lost me and an entire generation. They will not win the next election BRAND NEW CONGRESS!!!!

  54. Yes, those who voted to authorize Bush to go to war in Iraq were too lazy to read the classified document like those who voted no. But then, Hillary likes war.

    http://marjoriecohn.com/want-endless-war-love-the-u-s-empire-well-hillary-clintons-your-choice/

  55. Jeffrey Zaiser | February 7, 2017 at 7:55 am | Reply

    Way to go Joe N. Next time, I need an example of a classic ad hominem, in a rhetorical setting, I will quote your comment.

    Nader raises the issue of Sander’s defending the highly compromised ACA, which he never liked.

    Why not push for single payer, under the guise of expanding medicare?

    But the rich will continue to circumvent paying taxes, so it will never have funding base.

    I agree with Ralph, say what’s in your heart.

    it’s not like he’s running for office…

  56. Nader campaigned heavily in the swing states, took campaign money from the Republicans, and dissed Gore so badly many ignorant Democrats didn’t even vote. This is the same split-the-vote technique the billionaires used to take over our government in November. The oligarchy has one enemy now and it’s the democrats. I know this gets me kicked out of the Cool Kids Rebel Club but it’s true. You can occupy every senate office in America but if you don’t vote Republicans out it doesn’t matter. Half the country was marching in the 60’s but The Civil Rights Act would not have had a chance if Johnson hadn’t been president. The message you send by voting for buttholes like Nader or dedicated politicians like Sanders who can’t win, is that the gullibles on the left are every bit as easy to manipulate as the Fox News fans on the right.

  57. For those who still blame Mr. Nader for George W. Bush becoming president in 2000, you conveniently forget that #1 Gore lost his home state. Had he won Tennessee, the state of Florida wouldn’t have been of any consequence. #2 In Florida more democrats voted for George W. Bush than people voted for Ralph Nader! So, pull your heads out of your asses and get over it. You have to start blaming Jill Stein and Bernie Sanders for Hillary losing last year!!! You LOSERS!

  58. Wake up folks! Clearly had Super egotistical Nader not been on the Florida ballot as a third party candidate, Al Gore would have been elected and SCOTUS would not have been involved.

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